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	<title>Comments on: The Sin of Presumption</title>
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	<description>faith is putting one foot in front of the other</description>
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		<title>By: benny</title>
		<link>http://michaelkelleyministries.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-sin-of-presumption/#comment-1734</link>
		<dc:creator>benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood. I tripped over your phrase, &quot;actively waiting for God&quot; about 3 paragraphs up and had to stop and think about what sounded like an oxymoron at first glance. The more I thought on it the more I enjoyed your use of that phrase. To then offer it up as a definition for faith may have been me over-reaching but I like it nonetheless. 

I like your writing. Makes me wish I did more reading. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood. I tripped over your phrase, &#8220;actively waiting for God&#8221; about 3 paragraphs up and had to stop and think about what sounded like an oxymoron at first glance. The more I thought on it the more I enjoyed your use of that phrase. To then offer it up as a definition for faith may have been me over-reaching but I like it nonetheless. </p>
<p>I like your writing. Makes me wish I did more reading. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael K.</title>
		<link>http://michaelkelleyministries.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-sin-of-presumption/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benny - Don&#039;t know if I wrote &quot;active waiting,&quot; but I like that too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benny &#8211; Don&#8217;t know if I wrote &#8220;active waiting,&#8221; but I like that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://michaelkelleyministries.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-sin-of-presumption/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abraham never seemed to have a problem with active obedience regardless how bizarre and difficult God&#039;s requests must have seemed (&quot;uproot and start walking&quot;, &quot;ok&quot;, kill your son&quot;, &quot;ok&quot;, etc).  I think he would have agreed with Tom Petty that the waiting is the hardest part.  I really like your definition of faith, though, if I read into it correctly:  &quot;active waiting&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abraham never seemed to have a problem with active obedience regardless how bizarre and difficult God&#8217;s requests must have seemed (&#8220;uproot and start walking&#8221;, &#8220;ok&#8221;, kill your son&#8221;, &#8220;ok&#8221;, etc).  I think he would have agreed with Tom Petty that the waiting is the hardest part.  I really like your definition of faith, though, if I read into it correctly:  &#8220;active waiting&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Tims</title>
		<link>http://michaelkelleyministries.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-sin-of-presumption/#comment-1714</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Tims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a great word much-needed for this pastor wanting to WILL a new staff member on to our team ... better to have an Assoc. Pastor for Families with Youth by faith rather than works.  thanks man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a great word much-needed for this pastor wanting to WILL a new staff member on to our team &#8230; better to have an Assoc. Pastor for Families with Youth by faith rather than works.  thanks man.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael K.</title>
		<link>http://michaelkelleyministries.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-sin-of-presumption/#comment-1713</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great question, Josh, and something I too struggle with.

For me, the line comes when I find myself building relationships strictly for what I can get out of them. Sure, there maybe benefit to me in any relationship, but to do so strictly out of a desire for personal gain seems to be exclusively self-serving. Even in business relationships I think we can treat people as valuable, rather than just a means to our end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great question, Josh, and something I too struggle with.</p>
<p>For me, the line comes when I find myself building relationships strictly for what I can get out of them. Sure, there maybe benefit to me in any relationship, but to do so strictly out of a desire for personal gain seems to be exclusively self-serving. Even in business relationships I think we can treat people as valuable, rather than just a means to our end.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Fykes</title>
		<link>http://michaelkelleyministries.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/the-sin-of-presumption/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Fykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We have to move, to network, to MAKE IT HAPPEN&quot;

Thanks for this Michael.  How do we know when we&#039;re taking things into our own hands too much and not waiting on his timing and acting on our faith?

I struggle with this in business especially.  The bills are always compelling us to MAKE things happen.  I try to be sensitive to situations where it seems the Lord is pushing me away or trying to remove something.  It&#039;s so easy to push through blindly into something not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have to move, to network, to MAKE IT HAPPEN&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for this Michael.  How do we know when we&#8217;re taking things into our own hands too much and not waiting on his timing and acting on our faith?</p>
<p>I struggle with this in business especially.  The bills are always compelling us to MAKE things happen.  I try to be sensitive to situations where it seems the Lord is pushing me away or trying to remove something.  It&#8217;s so easy to push through blindly into something not good.</p>
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